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Old 03-05-2008, 12:32 AM
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Even if your not into guns,or shooting,or hunting.
Understand that this is left wing liberal government trying to tell you what you can and cant do in America.
Its removing the "free" from freedom.
What will they try to take away next ? .............your car? ...........your quad? ...........freedom of speech?






A little gun history...

I thought you might appreciate this . . .

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about
20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.
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In 1911, Turkey established gun
control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend
themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million
Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and
exterminated.
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China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political
dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated

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Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians,
unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians,
unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated'
people, unable to defend them selves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun
control: 56 million.
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During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most
Americans were ARMED!

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It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender
640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own government, a program
costing Australia taxpayers more than $500
million dollars. The first year results are now in:

List of 7 items:
Australia-wide,
homicides are up 3.2 percent.
Australia-wide,
assaults are up 8.6 percent.
Australia-wide,
armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!

In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are
now up 300 percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them
in, the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!

While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery
with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since
criminals now are guaranteed that their "prey" are unarmed.

There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the
ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety
has decreased, after such! Monumental effort and expense was expended in
successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience
and the other historical facts above prove it.

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You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians
disseminating this information. But you WILL hear of EVERY incident when a gun is misused.

Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control
laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.

Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!

The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this
history lesson.

With guns, we are 'citizens'.

Without them, we are 'subjects'.

Addendum:

Since becoming a Senator from New York, though, Hillary Clinton has added big-government gun control to her resume in a major way.
There is really little point in detailing Clinton's vote-by-vote record on the Second Amendment. That's because every single time there has been a gun-related vote in the Senate that GOA has tracked, Sen. Clinton has voted anti-gun. Without fail, she opts to restrict the rights of Americans to keep and bear firearms -- 100% of the time.
So, in keeping with the socialist ideals that guide her policies in other areas, she's a dedicated gun-grabber.
But the danger is far greater than that. She doesn't just vote wrong... she is an active leader in the campaign to disarm the citizenry step by step. Thus, it is far more telling to discuss what previous and upcoming restrictive legislation she cosponsors.
Sponsoring bills is the hallmark of the most outspoken anti-gun leaders such as Rep. Carolyn McCarthy and Sen. Chuck Schumer. They constantly come up with new ideas to chip away at the Second Amendment and then write them into legislation. Clinton doesn't do this at all. She's too busy socializing other aspects of American life.
Any legislator can write any bill he or she wants, but getting one passed is (thankfully) another story indeed. That's where co-sponsorship comes into play. Telling fellow legislators "Hey, I'm with you on this... put my name on the bill, too" is Sen. Clinton's preferred course of action.
The bottom line legislatively is that bills with large numbers of cosponsors stand a much greater chance of getting committee hearings, then voted out of committee, and finally scheduled for a full vote on the floor of the legislative body. Co-sponsorship is important, and it identifies those (in addition to the bill's author) who are leading the charge for its passage. It is so important that the GOA rating of "F-" is reserved solely for sponsors and cosponsors of anti-gun bills -- no legislator can drop that low in any other manner, even with a 0% voting record such as Clinton's.
Hillary Rodham Clinton has truly earned her F- rating. Her record of cosponsoring anti-gun initiatives reads like a Sarah Brady wish list.
Anti-Gun Bills that Hillary Clinton Has Co-Sponsored:
Congress:

S. 368: Massively expand federal funding and control of local law enforcement.
110th

S. 456: Treat firearms offenses as though they were Mafia or gang-related crimes.
110th

S. 527: Redefine more handgun ammunition as "armor piercing".
109th

S. 578: FBI to maintain gun sales records of persons on "watch lists" for 10 years.
109th

S. 620: Reinstate the expired ban on semi-automatic firearms and magazines.
109th

S. 645: Semi-auto ban plus a ban on some youth sport-shooting competitions.
109th

S. 935: Fifty-caliber ban.
109th

S. 22: Omnibus gun control: gun show ban, lifetime juvenile offender ban, FBI record-keeping, much more.
108th

S. 448: Huge bill including a magazine ban, gun show ban, mandatory trigger locks, one-handgun-a-month, etc.
108th

S. 1034: Semi-auto ban reauthorization.
108th

S. 1431: Vastly expanded semi-auto ban reauthorization (more guns banned plus other anti-gun provisions).
108th

S. 1774: Permanently ban polymer-framed (so-called "plastic") firearms.
108th

S. 1807: Gun show ban.
108th

S. 1882: FBI to maintain gun sales records of persons on "watch lists".
108th

S. 1983: National ballistic registry of all new firearms plus increased BATF power and funding.
108th

S. 2109: Ten-year extension of the semi-auto ban then in effect.
108th

S. 16: "Crime bill" including: gun show ban, lifetime juvenile offender ban, FBI record-keeping, much more.
107th

S. 767: Gun show ban.
107th

S. 924: Expand federal police power, specifically the federal government's role in "firearms-related incidents."
107th

S. 940: Gun show ban included in a large education bill.
107th

S. 1253: Register lawful gun buyers for a minimum of 90 days.
107th

S. 1788: Audit background check information; make it available for both criminal and civil inquiries.
107th


If elected President, what then would she do???

If you value your freedom, Please spread this anti-gun control message to all of your friends.
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It would appear that you don't care for the Clintons very much. I agree that the criminals would love for all of us to be unarmed and make their lives safer. Funny how the cops have no problem disarming the non criminals but can't seem to get the guns away from those who use them illegally.

I do not want to open a can of worms on politics but the Republicans will win again based solely on the fact that a woman or a black fellow just ain't gonna get elected yet. Hugo Chavez got a better chance of winning.
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CB, yup. exactly. Here comes MCcain.........

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Old 03-05-2008, 05:43 PM
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And the problem is what ???????

If u want your freedoms including OHV and dont want to be taxed to the point were u cant afford it.. smaller government = happier peoples
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