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Old 01-24-2004, 09:54 PM
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I've only had a quad for just under 2 years now. But I still remember my fisrt week and my first stuck. I bought my quad on the first day of a weeks vacation.

Before owning a quad, I did alot of hikking and already knew a couple places where folks go riding. And since I was off for a week, this was the second time in the week I was riding at this particular place. I was at this dredge pit in far-n-away south jersey and riding trails for several hours when I came to this terrain that looked fundamentally different. It was extremely dry, light colored and cracked with large cracks. It looked and felt like concrete under my feet. And there were quad tracks all over it.

I started accross this barron area and noticed way down to one end there was a bit of a POND of water standing on top of this wierd surface. Knowing what I do now about this particular terrain, I should have scratched that really quick. But then, I didn't know anything.

Well, I was moving over the face of the deep with no concept of how much trouble I was in when it occurred to me that I should slow down just in case. Just in case what? Well, in case the ground I was driving over, which by the way was no longer lightly colored but getting darker with every yard, got soft and I might get my front wheels stuck. I would then just back up.

Unbeknownst to our hero, it was already way too late. As soon as I let up on the gas a little, the semi-solid surface I was riding on gave way and all four wheeles broke thru into thick pudding. Now the quad was not sinking, yet... because the surface area of the bottom of theframe was enough to keep it from doing that. But there was just no way to get any traction to drive it out. And the more I walked arround it trying to lift one side or the other out, the worse the surrounding surface became. The contrast between the surface and what lies beneath was surprising. If you walked fast you could cross it easily. But if you stood in one place and tried to lift something you could be in past your knees in a few seconds.

I was lucky enough to find a 3x6 foot peice of plywood and was able to use that to get the quad a little closer to shore. (It was stuck only about 12 feet from solid ground). But even the plywood began to sink after I was walking arround on it long enough. By the way, the plywood was and old "Danger: Keep Out!" sign.

Eventually I gave up. I figured that if I couldnt get it out, no one else would either and left it there for the night. It was about 7:30pm and I had a 3 mile walk back to the car. It was july 4th and no self-respecting tow truck would have come out to help me then anyways.

I went back out there the following day and located a nearby towing company that was willing to pull quads out of mud holes... for $70... Which I gladly paid to get my quad back undented...

So the moral of the story it this. Dredge pits have lots of roads and trails to ride on. Stay off the actual dredge material... or at least don't ride on anything that even has the slightest chance of being guey underneath. You have no way of knowing how deep and how guey it might be.
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Old 01-24-2004, 11:46 PM
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So the moral of the story it this. Dredge pits have lots of roads and trails to ride on. Stay off the actual dredge material... or at least don't ride on anything that even has the slightest chance of being guey underneath. You have no way of knowing how deep and how guey it might be.
Or ride with someone who has a winch
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Old 01-27-2004, 01:29 AM
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[Or ride with someone who has a winch]

You mean somebody who has a truck with a winch on it...

About a month later, I saw someone else stuck fruther down by where the standing water had been when I was stuck. The stuck ATV was bigger than mine and a little more thoroughly stuck. Another big ATV with a winch was trying to help this guy out. He got in position and started the winch. It tugged at the stuck ATV but after trying for ten minutes all it did was drag the ATV on dry land closer to the mud pit.

The tow I got was from a big 70's-ish Ford Bronco and what eventually got this quad out was another truck with a winch.
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Old 01-27-2004, 11:44 AM
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So the moral of the story it this.* Dredge pits have lots of roads and trails to ride on.* Stay off the actual dredge material... or at least* don't ride on anything that even has the slightest chance of being guey underneath. You have no way of knowing how deep and how guey it might be.
Or ride with someone who has a winch [/b]
good point, Boon ... no one should be riding alone, period !!! ... at least he did get his quad back, and undamaged
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Old 01-27-2004, 06:00 PM
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Theres a lot of those old dredging sites around and glad I never thought to test one etc as I would have been sleeping there that night

I have found some of the seriously soft sand pits where if you find the wrong spot and get off to try to push the quad from being stuck you sink to the top of your boots or more right away. It was a lot of fun helping get people with heavier quads out etc.

Dont seem to have any of these problems on the trails though
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Old 01-28-2004, 12:08 AM
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Eh, you just weren't going fast enough..... I've been stuck. Nothing fabulous. Swamped my Kawie 250 3 wheeler back in the day up to the seat taking a path around a deep mud hole. Just didn't realize the puddle in the path was deeper than the hole I was riding around. Didn't take no winch though. That must've been rough. I don't know if I could leave my bike out in the woods alone....
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Old 02-20-2004, 10:52 PM
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Even if you don't have a winch, for about 40 bucks, you can get a come along. I have a 2000lb er and a 75ft 3/4 rope in my rack bag. It won't replace a winch, but it might help you move in the right direction espcially if you have some trees around to tie off on.
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Old 02-22-2004, 04:42 AM
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but the problem remains.. if you aren't anywhere near a tree.. your screwed lol but ya see thats when you use ur 4x4.. preferable an 85 glorified 150 .. it is indestructable lol or if its just water and you swamped it.. a 98 completely stock blaster got my friends swamped warrior out of about 3 and a half feet of water while i got my tire pinched in lol
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but the problem remains.. if you aren't anywhere near a tree.. your screwed
They make a 'sand spike' to hammer into the ground. Have never used one so I dont know how effective they are. It is 3 pcs that screw together, then you hammer them into the ground on an angle against the atv. Then, you hook the winch, puller, whatever onto it. I had one when I had my Nissan 4x4. I got it from an off-road truck catalog. Never used it, sold it with the truck. The pcs were about 2 ft long each and about 1.5 inches thick.
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