Neutral Problems

MGB · #1 (**permalink**) 04-29-2005, 11:14 PM

I have an 1997 King Quad. I'm also new to this site and hope someone can help me out.

There are times when it does not want to go into neutral. If it's not in neutral, obviously, it won't start. This happen most often if it stalls while in gear. Then it can be almost impossible to get it back into neutral to restart it. Any ideas?

Snafoow · #2 (**permalink**) 04-30-2005, 12:24 AM

:huh: Are you rolling the bike back and forth while trying to get it back to neutral ?

MGB · #3 (**permalink**) 04-30-2005, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MGB@Apr 29 2005, 08:14 PM
I have an 1997 King Quad.* I'm also new to this site and hope someone can help me out.

There are times when it does not want to go into neutral.* If it's not in neutral, obviously, it won't start.* This happen most often if it stalls while in gear.* Then it can be almost impossible to get it back into neutral to restart it.* Any ideas?
<div align='right'><{POST_SNAPBACK}>

[/quote]

Yes. Most of the time that helps. But not always. But I don't think I should have to rock it back and forth to get it to go into neutral. Is this normal?

David · #4 (**permalink**) 04-30-2005, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MGB+Apr 29 2005, 09:12 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MGB @ Apr 29 2005, 09:12 PM)</div>

Quote:

<!--QuoteBegin-MGB

Quote:

@Apr 29 2005, 08:14 PM
I have an 1997 King Quad.* I'm also new to this site and hope someone can help me out.

There are times when it does not want to go into neutral.* If it's not in neutral, obviously, it won't start.* This happen most often if it stalls while in gear.* Then it can be almost impossible to get it back into neutral to restart it.* Any ideas?
<div align='right'><{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Yes. Most of the time that helps. But not always. But I don't think I should have to rock it back and forth to get it to go into neutral. Is this normal?
<div align='right'><{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
[/b][/quote]
Well having it stall out is not normal to begin with, but if it does and you are in gear, YES, rocking it back and forth to get it in nuetral IS normal

kaw700vforce · #5 (**permalink**) 04-30-2005, 03:37 PM

Is there a fix for this..?
This happens to my sons machine now & then.

MarGinJoey · #6 (**permalink**) 04-30-2005, 03:40 PM

Hmm Well I've seen a few bikes on the web advertising a modification they did.. "START IN ANY GEAR". I'm checking into that one too, mine is a bit tough too, and I've got an indicator light and shift lever.

If the bike does stall in gear, then the tranny gears are still engaged, see? Therefore rocking it back n forth (to release them per se') might be the only trick.....

Just a guess.....

MGJ

rpyfz450 · #7 (**permalink**) 04-30-2005, 07:17 PM

You can try and disable the neutral safety feature by disconnecting the neutral switch. They usually short a circuit ground to enable the starter circuit and the neutral light. If this is ATV has an automatic clutch, you may be disabling a very valuable safety feature.

You might want to check your ATV's idle RPMs to ensure it's not idling too low and causing the stalling. Low idle also has the potential cause lubrication problems by not providing enough oil pressure at idle.

MGB · #8 (**permalink**) 04-30-2005, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rpyfz450@Apr 30 2005, 04:17 PM
You can try and disable the neutral safety feature by disconnecting the neutral switch.* They usually short a circuit ground to enable the starter circuit and the neutral light.* If this is ATV has an automatic clutch, you may be disabling a very valuable safety feature.

You might want to check your ATV's idle RPMs to ensure it's not idling too low and causing the stalling.* Low idle also has the potential cause lubrication problems by not providing enough oil pressure at idle.
<div align='right'><{POST_SNAPBACK}>

[/quote]

Disabling the neutral switch, sounds to me, like it could cause more problems than it fixes. However, your suggestion on lubricants sounds somewhat promising. My oil level, I know is good. But, since I have an auto clutch there must be some type of trans fluid. I'll look into that area.

To kaw700vforce: If I find a fix for my problem, I'll let you know so you can help your sons problem (maybe).

MGB

Thanks for you help and input.

rpyfz450 · #9 (**permalink**) 05-01-2005, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MGB@Apr 30 2005, 03:54 PM
Disabling the neutral switch, sounds to me, like it could cause more problems than it fixes.* However, your suggestion on lubricants sounds somewhat promising.* My oil level, I know is good.

Checking your oil level and oil pressure are two different things.

I suggest you reconsider your quick opinion of the neutral switch. Many engines have a hard time finding neutral without the engine running. You may find it very beneficial to have the engine running before switching gears when on the trail.

MGB · #10 (**permalink**) 06-26-2005, 02:30 AM

Update to my neutral problems. 1st: It's really not a problem getting into neutral. I can get into neutral. But I don't always get a neutral light. But, when I'm in neutral, I can move the reverse lever and I can get a reverse indicator light. 2nd: If I don't get a neutral light I can't start the machine with the electric starter. But I can start it manually. Now, I think the problem is the Neutral Relay. But my brother thinks it's the Neutral Switch.

The biggest problem is that this doesn't happen all the time. It's intermittent. Bouncing the machine or rocking it back and forth sometimes helps and i can get the neutral light and then start it electrically.

I've studied the electrical wiring diagrams six ways from Sunday. It looks to me like the Neutral Switch provides a ground to the indicator lights and relays (depending on the position of the Reverse lever). But the Neutral Relay provides power to the Electric Starter button.

Any other thoughts from anyone?

MGB